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Weekly Responses

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Topic: The Legacy of Alexander

Due: Sun Nov 17

For your online response this week, focus on the image you’re most interested in and write a post that includes the following:

Prompt: What do you these images suggest to you about the art of the Hewllenistic period?

Take a close look at these images from the period of cultural development begin by Alexander the Great, known as the Hellenistic period. (You can click on the image to open it in a new window.)

 

The Stag Hunt Mosaic; most likely depicting Alexander and Hephaestion. Macedonian from Pella. Late 4th century BCE.
5th Dynasty, 2494-2345 BCE.

 

Dying Adonis. Etruscan. Polychrome terracotta, 250-100 BCE.
5th Dynasty, 2494-2345 BCE.

 

Venus de Milo. Greek (Milos). Parian marble, 2nd century BCE.
5th Dynasty, 2494-2345 BCE.

 

The Drunken Satyr, also known as the Barberini Faun. Roman copy of a Greek original. Marble, 2nd century BCE.
5th Dynasty, 2494-2345 BCE.

 

Artist's impression of the Colossus of Rhodes, depicting the god Helios. Greek (Rhodes), 280 BCE.
5th Dynasty, 2494-2345 BCE.

 

The Dying Gaul. Roman copy of a Greek original.
5th Dynasty, 2494-2345 BCE.

 

Laocoön and His Sons. Roman. Marble, 1st century BCE.
5th Dynasty, 2494-2345 BCE.

 

Marble statue of an old woman. Roman, 14–68 CE.
5th Dynasty, 2494-2345 BCE.

 

Winged Nike of Samothrace. Parian marble, ca. 190 BCE.
5th Dynasty, 2494-2345 BCE.

For your online response this week, choose one image. Focus on the image you’re most interested in and write a post that includes the following:

  • What detail in particular jumps out at you as you look at this image?
  • What emotions stand out to you, either in terms of the subjects or the artist?
  • What do you think the artist was trying to communicate?
  • Looking at the other images, is there anything that you feel that your image has in common with some of the others?
  • What would you like to find out more about?

Responses for Week 12

Response for Week 12

Amanda Guzman 876
2024-12-08 19:31:46

The image I found most interesting was Laocoön and His Sons. Roman. Marble, 1st century BCE. I found this image to be the most interesting because although this isn’t a painting and it is made of marble that has not changed how easy it is to see the emotions and details on the sculptures, the faces of these sculptures especially the one in the middle are able to reflect the pain and suffering that they are feeling and the bodies aren’t posed in a way that makes them seem as if they are stiff or awkward.Also the sculptures are posed in a way to show that they are struggling against the snakes that are being wrapped around their bodies. In my opinion just looking at the image of these sculptures you are able to see a variety of emotions and the body shapes look very realistic especially on the body of the son to the right, the way that his stomach is squished in due to his bent over posture looks very realistic.

Response 12

Diomedes Sena 813
2024-11-25 10:28:39

For this week's response, I chose the image of the Dying Gaul. The one detail that jumps out at me is the Gaul's physique and the fact that he's naked.

The one emtion that stems out from this image is suffering. The subject appears to be in great pain.

Through this piece, it feels like the Author was trying to replicate the final moments of a dying warrior which would explain the sword and the great physique. The subject being naked couldve been the author's attempt to show off his subject's physique, to either emphasize that he was a soldier or to praise the human body.

Comparing it to other images, it would seem that suffering is a common motif in Hellenistic art. Most of the other sculptures also appear to be in pain. Another thing they have in common is their lack of apparels, almost like they want to show the beauty of the human body.

I would like to know the inspiration for Hellenistic art. Why did they make these pieces? Do they gather inspiration from the same places??

Week 12

Zacharie Boutoille 773
2024-11-18 18:02:53

The dying Gaul seems to stand out to me. I find the realism striking. It captures the essence of a defeated warrior on the battlefield. It's as if someone was there at that moment to cover him in marble and bring the bust to the museum. It reminds me of the victims of Pompeii after the volcanic eruption and the villagers were forever frozen in the brief moment of their life. Like most of the others, this image seems to have a depressing aura even when they don't seem to be trying to portray that emotion. The artist seems to be trying to capture the aura of the battlefield, particularly the aftermath, much like a modern-day war correspondent. They are reporting and showing the truth of what's happening in some faraway land. I want to learn more about the battles of the ancient world. I am quite curious to know how they played out and the finer details of the battle.

RE: Week 12

Diomedes Sena 896
2024-12-11 21:06:19

I agree in that this work is trying to depict the aftermath of a battlefield but I believe it’s more than that. I think this artwork is depicting something very important, defeat. The Dying Gaul sends a message, possibly to the soldiers of what it looks like to be defeated. It’s sad and it’s something you dont want.

Response

Liam McNamara 771
2024-11-18 14:16:07

A detail that jumps out at me is that within all of the pictures they all contain very detailed and intricate forms of art. This is important in the sense that from what we have learned from class the more art and literature a civilization has the more advanced it is and that is no different in this example. At this time period in Greece specifically they had reached a point of major influence where their culture was being spread around the Mediterranean. This can best be seen in the rise of Rome as they had essentially absorbed Greek culture and made it their own. This also supports the idea that new cultures will take what they find of other possibly older cultures and build off of that. An image that really jumps out at me is The Dying Gaul as the image depicts a Roman recreation of a Greek statue which just goes to show how intertwined the cultures became. Even up to the art, architecture and ideals were absorbed. The emotions that stand out to me within the art/sculpture is sadness as it depicts a dying man. However after further research I found that its supposed to represent courage in defeat. I think that the original author was trying to communicate something about the conquest and spreading of Greek as well as Roman culture and the rise of power. I would like to find out more about how the everyday people of what was once Greece felt as the Roman Empire began to grow and eventually occupy the area in the sense did they care about the way things were or did they accept things as they were.

Response for Week 12

Marielle Matingou 770
2024-11-18 00:33:35

The image stood out to me. It embodies the essence of Hellenistic art, characterized by grandiosity, realism, and idealization. The giant gold statue, reminiscent of iconic works like the Colossus of Rhodes, exudes wisdom and victory. The cityscape's organized layout and temples reflect the period's emphasis on architecture and civic design. Naturalistic elements like boats and mountains demonstrate attention to detail and realism. The blending of Greek and Eastern influences, evident in architectural styles and statue design, typifies Hellenistic art's cultural exchange. This image showcases the synthesis of artistic traditions, creating a unique visual language that defined the Hellenistic period.

Week 12

Gabriel Sarfo Arful 769
2024-11-17 23:51:05

The particular image that stands out to me is the Drunken Satyr's posture, with his hands over his head and leaning back contributes to another dimension to the overall impression of joy and carefree pleasure in the sculpture. The complete exposure of his body as he remains back on a rock creates an appearance that this satyr is either insane or completely oblivious to whatever is occurring around him. The artist is probably aiming to demonstrate that it represents what a person in complete delight appears like having no worries and happily resting on a rock. With the vivid muscular details on the sculpture, I find nothing more pleasing compared to it and it is one of a kind piece of work. What I would like to know more about is what inspired the artist to make such a masterpiece.

Response for Week 12

Johana Funes 764
2024-11-17 22:41:44

From the depiction of the Dying Adonis, personally, what stood out the most was the emotion and the position of which he is facing. He is with his head facing upwards as if looking towards the gods or to what I infer would be Adonis looking towards his death, turning away from the physical dimension in which the bed he lays is. 

From a personal perspective, the emotion on his face looks as though he is in either pain, agony or distraught. From the tilt of his head to the scrunch of his eyebrows, casting shadows over and around his eyes, the position of his arms in comparison to his straight torso and bent knees indicate to me Adonis here is presumptuously in either deep thought or pain but as the name implies he is “dying.”

The artist was most likely trying to encapture and convey the physical and emotional projection of a weakened person in the moment of death or agony. Looking at other images, it seems to me during this era, they were skilled in facial expression and particularly engaged in less exciting and cheerful expressions, rather, they captivated many blank or thought-provoking expressions. 

I would like to know more about what possibly the broken fragments once could have been, and would they provide additional incite?

Response for Week 12

Khadim Gueye 762
2024-11-17 21:50:54

The exciting intensity and clarity that define Hellenistic art are best represented by the Stag Hunt Mosaic from Pella, which shows Alexander and Hephaestion. The humans' intense focus and activity, especially their controlled yet forceful struggle with the deer, which conveys a dramatic feeling of action and life, is the detail that most stands out. In addition to expressing the relationship between the figures, this mosaic also reflects the artist's desire to honor human strength and control over nature by capturing feelings of unity, determination, and possibly victory. The period's emphasis on technical proficiency and realistic portrayal is evident in the use of tiny stones to provide naturalistic shade and character.One can observe a common interest in dynamic design and conveying emotions, which are frequently intended to captivate the observer, when comparing this mosaic to other Hellenistic artworks, such as paintings or frescoes. I want to learn more about this imagery's cultural or political importance in Macedonian society, especially how it would have supported ideas of leadership or bravery in Alexander's day.

OLDER WOMAN

Abubakari Yatabare 761
2024-11-17 21:45:52

The artwork that I was drawn to was the one of the older woman. What I was immediately drawn to was the way the fabric was drawn. This isn't something specific for this picture as the Nike one also has lifelike fabric. Even in her face which is damaged you can see the wrinkles and how lifelike it was. But this was drawn to me because of the fact that It was an older woman. Usually when someone thinks of classical art, they think of masculine guys and goddesses not an older lady and it made me realize I dont see older woman depicted in art. I think maybe the artist was trying to communicate older woman and their role in society maybe? Maybe they were just trying to highlight an elder. Something I do want to know is bow did that even get the marble to look flowy and drapey like how did they get stone to look like that.

Laocoön and His Sons. Roman. Marble, 1st century BCE.

Shafwan Ibn Majid 757
2024-11-17 20:57:18

A detail in particular jumped out at me as I was looking at this image the three men were naked and snakes were biting them three men. The emotions that stand out to me, either in terms of the subject or the artist is shock because why the artist has three naked men getting bitten by snakes. I think the artist was trying to communicate is if you are too comfortable and leave yourself exposed when your enemies try to attack you like the three naked men are exposed and the snake also known as enemies attacks you. Looking at the other images, is there anything that I feel that my image has in common with some of the of the other are exposed and naked. I would like to find out more about why most of these images are of naked people.

Response Week 12

Benjamin Yang 751
2024-11-17 18:50:03

Firstly, the pose that the Drunken Satyr is in makes the overall sculpture evoke a sense of bliss and uncaring pleasure. The complete openness of his body as he lays back on a rock makes it seem as if either this satyr is so out of it that he lacks inhibition and is oblivious of what is going on around him. What the sculptor is probably trying to convey is that this is what a person in pure bliss looks like, void of troubles and mindlessly basking on a rock. Along with the general attention and dedication to musculature and anatomy, this sculpture shares another commonality with the other artworks; the usage of dynamic posing of the human itself to evoke a message or feeling. With the Drunken Satyr in particular, even the positioning of his hand behind his neck with his other hand draped around the rock haphazardly portrays how this satyr is so drunk that he can barely sit straight. An ambiguous thing that I would like to ask the creator of this work is what exactly inspired him to create this work.

The Stag Hunt Mosaic

Iryna Tomarova 744
2024-11-17 14:01:36

First of all, I want to mention how detailed this work is. It looks like a painted picture from the distance, but if you look closer, you notice thousands of different pebbles. The author understands the principles of anatomy and shading, which creates the illusion of realism and depth. What also jumps is an author’s sign (information of which I googled). It says “Gnosis made it” and makes it one of those rare examples with an artist attribution.

Two men in the mosaic express confidence and strength (musculature movement and expression look highly realistic), while the stag looks fragile and scared. It represents the confrontation of the human world and nature - thus humanity shows its majesty and victory over the natural world.

The artist tries to show the heroic ideals, skills, and dominance as well as humans as central figures in the world.

The Stag Hunt Mosaic and other arts of the Hellenistic period have a lot in common. They focus on emotions (at the same time realistic and dramatic), like sorrow, suffering, pain, muse, victory, and feelings of pride. Dynamic movements and detailed anatomy celebrate the beauty of the human body. We can see every tense muscle and veins; every fold of the body is perfected. At the same time, artists show not only heroes and athletes but also old people and kids in their everyday lives.

Response for Week 12

Siwani Gurung 742
2024-11-17 13:18:45

Laocoön and His Sons. Roman. Marble, 1st century BCE.

  • What detail in particular jumps out at you as you look at this image?

The way that the figures are contorted as the serpent wraps around them strikes me. Not one of the figures is in the same position, but they all seem to share similar emotions but the largest figure in the middle looks to be suffering the most. All of the figures look muscular with respectable physical attributes however this does not help them against the serpent whose long body is able to constrict all three of the figures. The detail in their bodies allow us to literally feel the tension in the moment. There is an aspect of juxtaposition here, as both the humans and the serpent are contorting their bodies, but the humans are doing it in agony and fear, while the serpent uses it as its method of control.

  • What emotions stand out to you, either in terms of the subjects or the artist?

It looks like pure agony; the main subject's furrowed eyebrows contribute to his desperate expression as the proximity of the serpent's head to his thigh suggests that it is about to bite. The sons are clearly despairing as they watch their father nearing death. As they are also wrapped around by the serpent's body, the image may be a reflection of their futures too, so perhaps their expressions include fear for themselves as well as their father. It is interesting that there is no redemption or purpose communicated through the statue, just pure suffering.

  • What do you think the artist was trying to communicate? 

It is hard to tell what the artist was trying to communicate, because the statue just communicates agony with no reason or end goal here. Maybe it represents struggle without hope, the idea that sometimes humans are caught in battles that we cannot win.

  • Looking at the other images, is there anything that you feel that your image has in common with some of the others? 

All of the other statues share the intense realistic detail, with focus on the intricacies of the face. They all communicate a state of emotion. I think the detail of the face and body generally make the statues easier to empathise with as we attempt to understand their situations, and in this case, can almost feel the panic and pain associated with them.

  • What would you like to find out more about?

Why was this family caught in this struggle? Was it a punishment, or simply an accident? What kind of relationship did the sons have with their father, and was this a common reflection of these types of relationships in Hellenistic cultures?

Marble statue of an old woman. Roman- Week 12 response

Emily M Ulloa 740
2024-11-17 02:16:51

The Marble Statue of an Old Woman (Roman, 14–68 CE) draws attention because of the highly realistic, even unflattering, portrayal of age. Unlike many classical sculptures this statue embraces the natural lines and wrinkles of an elderly face. The detail that stands out to me is the sagging skin around the face and neck it's so intricate and lifelike that it almost feels like the artist wanted to immortalize the subject’s very human vulnerability. In terms of emotion, there’s a sense of dignity and quiet resilience that seems to arise from the figure. Even though the woman’s appearance is not traditionally beautiful, there's a quiet strength in her expression that feels deeply human. I can't help but wonder if this was the artist’s attempt to capture the wisdom and experience that comes with age. It’s a far cry from the idealized forms typically seen in Roman portraiture, which often emphasized youth, vigor, and power. The artist seems to be communicating respect for the older generation, or at least offering a more delicate view of what aging entails showing the real, often unspoken beauty in growing older. There’s something almost intimate about how the figure’s features are rendered with such care. Perhaps the artist was trying to convey that beauty isn't confined to youth but can also be found in the marks that life leaves on a person. I’d love to know more about in which this statue was created was it a specific individual being honored? Was this kind of portraiture common for the Roman elite, or was it meant to signify something broader about Roman attitudes towards aging and gender? What was the role of portraiture in Roman society when it came to representing age, particularly for women?

Artist's impression of the Colossus of Rhodes, depicting the god Helios. Greek (Rhodes), 280 BCE.

Thierno Bah 738
2024-11-17 01:23:15

  • The detail in particular jumps out at me as I look at this image is the powerful golden figure of the Colossus of Rhodes towering over an ancient harbor with classical buildings and busy ships below.
  • This image would evoke great feelings of greatness, achievement, and patriotism and hence symbolize power and prosperity in the society that built the structure.
  • Most likely, the artist had aimed at bringing out the importance of the statue as an icon of human achievement, intellectual curiosity, and cultural dynamism of the city.
  • The Colossus of Rhodes shares certain elements of universality with other classical masterpieces: celebrating human achievement, dramatic scale, and cultural significance. Along with the Winged Nike of Samothrace and Venus de Milo, it has been transformed into a symbol of power and victory. The existence of such a monument makes one think of works such as Laocoön and His Sons and The Dying Gaul, which amaze both with scale and emotional depth. While the Colossus and those sculptures reveal the classical expressions of detailed anatomy and life-like movements, as shown in the examples of Barberini Faun and Dying Adonis, the images together act to express both technical achievements and cultural pride through symbolic storytelling.
  • I would like to learn more about the meaning and history of these statues. Knowing what myth or event inspired the other images and more importantly, finding out how these pieces were first shown and their effects upon ancient societies would be interesting.

Venus de Milo. Greek (Milos). Parian marble, 2nd century BCE.

Rachid Cherif 737
2024-11-16 22:11:31

1.The most striking detail is the sculpture’s pose. Despite the missing arms, the figure conveys a sense of motion and elegance through the twist of the torso and the gentle draping of the fabric around the hips.

2.The expression on the figure’s face and the overall composition evoke feelings of serenity, strength, and an understated sensuality. It’s as though the artist intended to balance human vulnerability (symbolized by the incomplete form) with an enduring beauty.

3.The artist seems to be communicating the idealized beauty of the human form and a reverence for the divine or the mythological, common in classical art. The sculpture might represent themes of grace, femininity, and timeless allure.

4.Without seeing the other images, one could speculate that if they are also classical or historical works, they might share themes of idealism, symmetry, or the exploration of human emotion and form.

RE: Venus de Milo. Greek (Milos). Parian marble, 2nd century BCE.

Thierno Bah 739
2024-11-17 01:42:17

The sculpture has illustrated how classical art focused on perfect human shapes depicting beauty and movement through the turn of the body and the flow of the garment. Without its arms, the statue is tranquil, forceful and softly beautiful-a representa­tion for the weak and enduring good looks. All such features find their repetition in other classical works, as in Venus de Milo, as balancing, symmetry, and active pose have been used to depict grace and inner strength. Most of the classical sculptures, like the Nike of Samothrace or the Laocoön Group, are of godly or mythological characters that join human emotions with the stories of the gods. Consequently, these works manifest the ideas of beauty, womanhood, and relationships between individuals and their gods-as will be considered eternal values.

Old Lady Marble - Week 12 Response!

Abigail Pokua Amankwatia 736
2024-11-16 21:53:27

Due to the decript marble statue is what caught my eye within the first place of the old woman within the era of Roman culture of 14-68 CE. Due to the loss of her arms and her nose, her position or even emotions could be anything. Yet, I feel like she could have been carrying something valuable to her or heavy in general, due to the factor of her right arm being more within a downward position while her left is seemingly behind her.

The old lady seems distraught but that could just be the removal of her nose, she could be content with her situation but she also seems sad, tiredness could also be a given emotion that I feel like she is displaying. I feel like the sculptors or artists were trying to provide a portrayal of daily life, mainly in the aspect of woman in Roman culture that didn't pertain to the paterfamilias or just around the men, when life surrounded by them in general. I see in common with the majority of the women statues is that they mostly don't have their arms or significant features of their body, but that could just be due to the age of the sculpture.

I would like to know about why the artist had chosen the old woman in the first place, what make them chose this specific lady out of everyone that they had seen.

week 12 Response

Zuleyaime LaGuerre 732
2024-11-14 19:06:38

Winged Nike of Samothrace. Parian marble, ca. 190 BCE.

When looking at the image, the first thing that stuck out to me was the position of the wings being open like getting ready to fly. I believe the author was trying to communicate how powerful or dominant she was since when wings are unfolded it is usually used to show dominance against those they are competing with. I feel as though all the images seem to display an emotion of some sort, some showing tragedy, others violence, and some distraught. I would like to know what the full stature looked like before destroyed, while it can be inferred we can’t get the whole meaning of this image without the arms or face to know the full story.